#wammy's houes

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

What do you think L thinks of the successor program?

Previous Thoughts on Wammy's and How the Concept is both Bonkers and Toxic

Well, what we see is pretty damning.

L... Doesn't Talk About it Much and Other Bad Signs

L brings up the successor program once in the manga (this line is removed from the anime adaptation). It's a very one-off line in which he tells Light (while still in the college arc) that "you know, even if you were to kill me, L is legion and I'd just be replaced by the next L" and Light sort of stares at him.

Neither touch on this ever again.

Worse, when the torch is passed, it's only because Watari happened to be in the room where he could push The Big Red Button (TM) that sent information to Wammy's. And yes, while there was clearly a protocol in place to let the successors take on L's legacy, it uh... sure wasn't L pushing that button and the fact that it's a secret button in the security room where Watari hangs out (and certainly not L) leads me to think this is a Watari idea (the orphanage where people compete for the title of L, being in fact, Watari's weird fucking idea).

Most tellingly, L doesn't even bring it up when he knows he's going to die. He doesn't even think to himself "ah yes, those bratty twelve-year-olds in England will get vengeance for me and then Light will be put to justice". L doesn't think about the Wammy program at all in his last day, in fact, he knew for several hours he was going to die and he didn't seek out any means to bring his successors in or even think "oh woe that Light is right there or I could inform my secret successors of everything we need to know".

We learn later that Near and Mello never actually met L, in fact, and if they ever did speak to him it was... brief and impersonal. This leaves them both with weird complexes about the man and their relationship with the role of successor.

In fact, L blatantly says "Light is my successor" and seems to mean it. True, L knew Light was Kira and was perhaps doing this for the mind fuckery, but on the other hand he had no reason to do this and again, had time to take it back once he realized Light was Kira again (which he did very quickly after Light got his memories back). Had L not done this, he could have either a) directly had a Wammy's person take over and explain the whole successor thing (he does not) or b) left it such that Soichiro was in charge. He has nothing to gain by even hinting that Light could take control over his title after he left. And the fact is... Light does do it. He's the power behind L for six years while Near and Mello do... well, Mello joins the mafia and has a time in Nevada, Near does who fucking knows what.

Basically, L couldn't be less supportive of the Wammy's orphanage unless he actively shut it down and fired Watari (but then who would bring him snacks?)

But Why?

L's in it for personal victory. L wants to beat Kira himself, he wants to do it on his own terms, with his own ingenuity. It's not so much about beating Kira but the fact that he will be the one to beat Kira. His 'successors' doing so would be less than meaningless to L.

Leaving it to some twelve-year-old to solve, hand-picked by Watari because they solved puzzles good and read good too, would be worse for L than fucking Matsuda or Misa making a major break in the case (and canonically, both those things happen, and canonically L handles it fucking poorly).

Worse, Watari is not even implying, but outright saying, that L is not so special a super genius snowflake and that Watari can cultivate another one simply through hard work and careful selection. "Congratulations, L, you are irrelevant and superfluous!" And worse, those replacements are little kids and I imagine L finds their quirks... annoying. (I'm not convinced L's not just s troll).

And if we take LABB into account, all L sees them do is kill themselves or make trouble for everyone (through murder). L does not want to deal with these people (and so he doesn't and makes Naomi do it for an entire hilarious novel).

TL;DR

L hates those fuckers.

[a-for-alternative]

#A in his coffin just flipping through his phone after waking up because they buried it with him

㊁ : emergency

[Text: sanctuarY]

Don't Go

[VOICE MESSAGE]

". . . . . . "

". . . . . help. . . "

✉ i want them all

㊁ : emergency

[TXT: Absolutely Delightful]

I think they tried to kill me. I'm scared. [Deleted]

Come see me please.

♡ : endearing/affectionate/loving

[TXT: Absolutely Delightful]

Is it strange that I like patching up your injuries? You should give me better times to be affectionate with you or it's going to get confusing.

👅 : sext/suggestive

[TXT: Absolutely Delightful]

You have beautiful hands, I'd like to feel them more.

♪ : musical/lyrics

[TXT: Gone.]

[CosmoSheldrakeOwlSong.mp3]

★ : wrong number

[TXT: Gone.]

We cannot let them incinerate him. I won't let it happen.

☯ : angry/hateful

[TXT: Gone.]

You bastard, how dare you leave me behind. What am I supposed to do with this?

This is what happens when you don't tell me things!

I hate you.

Bastard.

Scumbag.

I miss you. ♖ : drunk/drugged

[TXT: Gone.]

I wonder if this would have been a slower option than how you went? I don't think we can compare notes.

Is your ghost reading these texts in that coffin of yours.

If yes send me a vaguely ominous message in my ear before I finally go.

Fuck.

I'm still here.

I think I heard you.

♛ : worried

[TXT: Absolutely Delightful]

You haven't sent any messages in a while. I hope you didn't stay up all night again. I'll come up with breakfast, it's too loud downstairs.

♘ : late night

[TXT: Gone.]

I don't know if I believe in ghosts. You can say whatever you want to me, I think I'm too scared to see you. I cannot smell a ghost I think. I don't know where you are. What would happen if I dug you up? We weren't able to find your grave, but if you text me maybe you can tell us.

We can do whatever you want, I promise I'll do it. B will even behave.

One time when I asked L how he felt with being L he told me I would know soon enough. I didn't know it then but I think I do now.

Lonely.

Please come back, I hate this.

I promise I won't complain anymore.

[a-for-alternative]

The truest question of all! Was A ever genuinely nice to others or was it the polite persona to reach the top?

Alternative was often friendly in order to survive ... Some part of him sincerely resents the structures that required that he preform niceness or a sunny disposition and more than that, he resents being dependent on other’s opinions of him, their belief in who he was and what he could do. Perhaps, that was one of the draws of L’s position - he could finally be free of a personal reputation, he wouldn’t have to play nice anymore...

But- 

There is something authentically gentle in Alternative’s nature, he sincerely wants the world to be a place where those that are timid and gentle can exist without abuse, but he doesn’t believe that he can create that world and be gentle himself. Alternative wants to become the kind of person the world needs more of because it doesn’t need more ambitious, successful, or powerful people... it needs more people with humility, honesty, and kindness. 

I think Alternative goes through phases of conflict with who he is becoming that isn’t who he wants to be. Sometimes there are glimpses of it in quiet moments when he doesn’t think he has to preform for anyone - like when he cuts the leather off his gloves and buries it. His journal entry on that says quiet a lot about who he is...

 The threads are loosely stitched inside at the wrists where my pulse would thrum against the seam and itch.    Death’s caress.

  I pull the knife from my boot, 

  the usual affirmation of my boyishness isn’t there,  

   I’ve forgotten to be who I’m trying to be.

  I hesitate.     — Not because it’s not in me to free this remnant of their body from my wardrobe but because I know their parts would out last their natural life, even if it had not been cut short.

     Does that matter?     

   Would I want someone wearing me, if it kept them warm or made them feel better to hide their bony fingers?      

  Would it matter if it was a stranger? Would it matter if I only had the capacity of a child and no appreciation of a greater purpose? Would it matter if I had no choice? What if I had no autonomy, if I was helpless and had done nothing wrong, if it was merciless and my want for integrity didn’t matter because       I        didn’t      matter    ? 

     Would it matter then?

I cut the thread.

  I buried the pieces of Stranger in the flower bed.

I think he wants to be a nice person but I think he also just wants to survive this until he feels free to be something else. - Maybe that was it, he realized there isn’t an end point where he can begin being something else..

 Or maybe he realized too late that he’s forgotten how. 

Was any of his friendliness in Wammy’s genuine? 

Maybe. Sometimes. When he let himself forget that he was being evaluated, that the end was always on the horizon, that they were all ultimately disposable in the face of the greater good they were serving, that friends won’t be there when you’re L... 

[hellisanhonourstudent]

Wammy's House didn't need to exist,IMO. Mello could've simply been some competitive gangster wanting power and to be #1,whereas Near might be motivated by disliking Kira and/or the idea of an absolute power.

People have way more than enough reasons to go against Kira,no need to make an orphanage of baby L's.

What do you think L thinks of the successor program?

Previous Thoughts on Wammy's and How the Concept is both Bonkers and Toxic

Well, what we see is pretty damning.

L... Doesn't Talk About it Much and Other Bad Signs

L brings up the successor program once in the manga (this line is removed from the anime adaptation). It's a very one-off line in which he tells Light (while still in the college arc) that "you know, even if you were to kill me, L is legion and I'd just be replaced by the next L" and Light sort of stares at him.

Neither touch on this ever again.

Worse, when the torch is passed, it's only because Watari happened to be in the room where he could push The Big Red Button (TM) that sent information to Wammy's. And yes, while there was clearly a protocol in place to let the successors take on L's legacy, it uh... sure wasn't L pushing that button and the fact that it's a secret button in the security room where Watari hangs out (and certainly not L) leads me to think this is a Watari idea (the orphanage where people compete for the title of L, being in fact, Watari's weird fucking idea).

Most tellingly, L doesn't even bring it up when he knows he's going to die. He doesn't even think to himself "ah yes, those bratty twelve-year-olds in England will get vengeance for me and then Light will be put to justice". L doesn't think about the Wammy program at all in his last day, in fact, he knew for several hours he was going to die and he didn't seek out any means to bring his successors in or even think "oh woe that Light is right there or I could inform my secret successors of everything we need to know".

We learn later that Near and Mello never actually met L, in fact, and if they ever did speak to him it was... brief and impersonal. This leaves them both with weird complexes about the man and their relationship with the role of successor.

In fact, L blatantly says "Light is my successor" and seems to mean it. True, L knew Light was Kira and was perhaps doing this for the mind fuckery, but on the other hand he had no reason to do this and again, had time to take it back once he realized Light was Kira again (which he did very quickly after Light got his memories back). Had L not done this, he could have either a) directly had a Wammy's person take over and explain the whole successor thing (he does not) or b) left it such that Soichiro was in charge. He has nothing to gain by even hinting that Light could take control over his title after he left. And the fact is... Light does do it. He's the power behind L for six years while Near and Mello do... well, Mello joins the mafia and has a time in Nevada, Near does who fucking knows what.

Basically, L couldn't be less supportive of the Wammy's orphanage unless he actively shut it down and fired Watari (but then who would bring him snacks?)

But Why?

L's in it for personal victory. L wants to beat Kira himself, he wants to do it on his own terms, with his own ingenuity. It's not so much about beating Kira but the fact that he will be the one to beat Kira. His 'successors' doing so would be less than meaningless to L.

Leaving it to some twelve-year-old to solve, hand-picked by Watari because they solved puzzles good and read good too, would be worse for L than fucking Matsuda or Misa making a major break in the case (and canonically, both those things happen, and canonically L handles it fucking poorly).

Worse, Watari is not even implying, but outright saying, that L is not so special a super genius snowflake and that Watari can cultivate another one simply through hard work and careful selection. "Congratulations, L, you are irrelevant and superfluous!" And worse, those replacements are little kids and I imagine L finds their quirks... annoying. (I'm not convinced L's not just s troll).

And if we take LABB into account, all L sees them do is kill themselves or make trouble for everyone (through murder). L does not want to deal with these people (and so he doesn't and makes Naomi do it for an entire hilarious novel).

TL;DR

L hates those fuckers.